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		<title>By: Steven Pace</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-5446</link>
		<dc:creator>Steven Pace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 15 May 2010 15:27:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When people want to waste their money on products that claim to be more green, that is silly, but ok.  What I am upset about is when their little mistakes hurt people who can&#039;t afford it.  When they change their mind and no longer want to import organic produce from across the world, the farmers who have invested to produce these silly products are hurt.  When &quot;renewable&quot; fuels take food out of hungry working poor people&#039;s mouths, that makes me mad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When people want to waste their money on products that claim to be more green, that is silly, but ok.  What I am upset about is when their little mistakes hurt people who can&#8217;t afford it.  When they change their mind and no longer want to import organic produce from across the world, the farmers who have invested to produce these silly products are hurt.  When &#8220;renewable&#8221; fuels take food out of hungry working poor people&#8217;s mouths, that makes me mad.</p>
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		<title>By: Climate Change Scandal Spreads &#8211; Still Unreported in American Mainstream Press &#171; MN Prager Discussion Group</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1600</link>
		<dc:creator>Climate Change Scandal Spreads &#8211; Still Unreported in American Mainstream Press &#171; MN Prager Discussion Group</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 09 Feb 2010 02:57:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The editors pick up another theme that is familiar to readers of this blog: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: The Great IPCC Meltdown Continues - Walter Russell Mead's Blog - The American Interest</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1557</link>
		<dc:creator>The Great IPCC Meltdown Continues - Walter Russell Mead's Blog - The American Interest</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 15:19:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The editors pick up another theme that is familiar to readers of this blog: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Walter Russell Mead: &#8220;The great IPCC meltdown continues&#8221; &#171; Spin, strangeness, and charm</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1546</link>
		<dc:creator>Walter Russell Mead: &#8220;The great IPCC meltdown continues&#8221; &#171; Spin, strangeness, and charm</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Feb 2010 04:23:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] The editors pick up another theme that is familiar to readers of this blog: [...]</description>
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		<title>By: sdcougar</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1511</link>
		<dc:creator>sdcougar</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 21:02:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your point, &quot;push for a massive scientific redo,&quot; must face what has been intergral to the old process, the federal funding that becomes an end in itself. Pres. Eiesenhower warned “that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.

“Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity…The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded.”

Your fourth point, &quot; push for intensive new research into climate science,&quot; is also entangled in the above problem.  Already [perhaps you could give us the figure] tens of billions of dollars have flowed to grants on this topic.  Though, as noted [by Richard Lindzen, I believe], most of this money has not gone to the climate science itself but to the disaster prophets and their mitiagation scenarios.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your point, &#8220;push for a massive scientific redo,&#8221; must face what has been intergral to the old process, the federal funding that becomes an end in itself. Pres. Eiesenhower warned “that public policy could itself become the captive of a scientific-technological elite.</p>
<p>“Partly because of the huge costs involved, a government contract becomes virtually a substitute for intellectual curiosity…The prospect of domination of the nation’s scholars by Federal employment, project allocations, and the power of money is ever present—and is gravely to be regarded.”</p>
<p>Your fourth point, &#8221; push for intensive new research into climate science,&#8221; is also entangled in the above problem.  Already [perhaps you could give us the figure] tens of billions of dollars have flowed to grants on this topic.  Though, as noted [by Richard Lindzen, I believe], most of this money has not gone to the climate science itself but to the disaster prophets and their mitiagation scenarios.</p>
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		<title>By: IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks &#171; Diagenesis</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1491</link>
		<dc:creator>IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks &#171; Diagenesis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Feb 2010 16:29:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks &#124; I Hate Al Gore</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1428</link>
		<dc:creator>IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks &#124; I Hate Al Gore</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Feb 2010 07:32:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks : USACTION NEWS</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1193</link>
		<dc:creator>IPCC: International Pack of Climate Crooks : USACTION NEWS</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 22:00:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Craig Goodrich</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1179</link>
		<dc:creator>Craig Goodrich</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Feb 2010 16:41:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This is a good, moderate column, but there are times when moderation is out of place.  This is one of those times.

First, the real science is not that hard to understand, for anyone who passed 7th-grade Earth Science and 12th-grade Calculus.  Actual papers by distinguished climate scientists are available all over the Web. 

You will soon find that the hard evidence against the CO2-driven theory is overwhelming.  NONE of its predictions have proven true; The 20th century warming was driven to such an extent by ocean current fluctuations and solar activity that any contribution of CO2 would be unmeasurable.

Moreover, NOAA, GISS, and CRU have so diddled the surface temperature in innumerable tendentious ways that it is impossible to say with any certainty exactly how much warming has taken place in the last century and a half.  Around one degree C seems reasonable, but that is well within the observational margin of error, even if the raw data hadn&#039;t been lost by these distinguished government agencies.  One degree C when coming out of the coldest period in the last ten thousand years is hardly cause for panic.

Second, millions are suffering all over the planet RIGHT NOW BECAUSE of the insane &quot;renewable&quot; policies of politicians entranced by the Global Warming hysteria.  Ethanol production has raised world food prices and is causing food riots and starvation in the Third World.  Wholesale clearance of rain forest to plant oil palm for biodiesel and eucalyptus for &quot;carbon sink&quot; is destroying wildlife habitat and unique ecologies throughout the tropics.  Peaceful rural lifestyles, unspoiled wilderness, and wildlife habitat are being devastated from Germany through the UK and US to Australia by phalanxes of utterly useless and hideously ugly phalanxes of giant wind turbines.

Thanks to a horde of idiot politicians in league with fat cat financial manipulators, we are utterly destroying the environment in order to save it from one of Mencken&#039;s imaginary hobgoblins.

So if some of us reject moderation in favor of opposing this criminal lunacy with every fibre of our being, I hope you will understand why.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This is a good, moderate column, but there are times when moderation is out of place.  This is one of those times.</p>
<p>First, the real science is not that hard to understand, for anyone who passed 7th-grade Earth Science and 12th-grade Calculus.  Actual papers by distinguished climate scientists are available all over the Web. </p>
<p>You will soon find that the hard evidence against the CO2-driven theory is overwhelming.  NONE of its predictions have proven true; The 20th century warming was driven to such an extent by ocean current fluctuations and solar activity that any contribution of CO2 would be unmeasurable.</p>
<p>Moreover, NOAA, GISS, and CRU have so diddled the surface temperature in innumerable tendentious ways that it is impossible to say with any certainty exactly how much warming has taken place in the last century and a half.  Around one degree C seems reasonable, but that is well within the observational margin of error, even if the raw data hadn&#8217;t been lost by these distinguished government agencies.  One degree C when coming out of the coldest period in the last ten thousand years is hardly cause for panic.</p>
<p>Second, millions are suffering all over the planet RIGHT NOW BECAUSE of the insane &#8220;renewable&#8221; policies of politicians entranced by the Global Warming hysteria.  Ethanol production has raised world food prices and is causing food riots and starvation in the Third World.  Wholesale clearance of rain forest to plant oil palm for biodiesel and eucalyptus for &#8220;carbon sink&#8221; is destroying wildlife habitat and unique ecologies throughout the tropics.  Peaceful rural lifestyles, unspoiled wilderness, and wildlife habitat are being devastated from Germany through the UK and US to Australia by phalanxes of utterly useless and hideously ugly phalanxes of giant wind turbines.</p>
<p>Thanks to a horde of idiot politicians in league with fat cat financial manipulators, we are utterly destroying the environment in order to save it from one of Mencken&#8217;s imaginary hobgoblins.</p>
<p>So if some of us reject moderation in favor of opposing this criminal lunacy with every fibre of our being, I hope you will understand why.</p>
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		<title>By: northwah</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/wrm/2010/02/02/can-global-warming-be-reborn/#comment-1159</link>
		<dc:creator>northwah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Feb 2010 21:22:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Might I suggest a sixth step in the recovery program for the environmentalists, in the tank media, scientists, and politicians behind Global Warming?

6. Accept the fact that your conclusions and dooms day scenarios are totally false. Admit them and apologize. Prosecute the perpetuators of the fraud and move on to more noble and truthful endeavors to build back what little credibility you had in the first place.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Might I suggest a sixth step in the recovery program for the environmentalists, in the tank media, scientists, and politicians behind Global Warming?</p>
<p>6. Accept the fact that your conclusions and dooms day scenarios are totally false. Admit them and apologize. Prosecute the perpetuators of the fraud and move on to more noble and truthful endeavors to build back what little credibility you had in the first place.</p>
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