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		<title>By: Hub Galliker</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-234</link>
		<dc:creator>Hub Galliker</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Aug 2008 20:41:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello;

I read your article on Afghanistan the other day, and was struck that you seem to be distancing yourself for your part in the incredible damage the Bush Admin. has created in out world. In-League with, in my opinion, American Traitors such as Norquist and Podhoretz, you should not be allowed to vanish into the academic background for your crimes against our country.

I was advised of the fierce patriotism engendered in Americans of Japanese descent by the ghastly imprisonment program in WW2.  It may seem to the otherwise-advised mind that you have attempted, in your abbettance to WAR-Crimes by the U.S. Government, that you have &quot;counted-coup&quot; for that outrage.  But vengeance is the Lord&#039;s, not yours or mine. I know of Daniel Inouye, and I know of Wesley Narita, for my hometown here.

They are different than you, sir.  The are Americans I can understand and respect.

The bastards that have subverted MY government under cover the Cheney/Bish Admin. are indeed the enemy within, and you carry that title forever for me, unless they start a new tribunal, similar to the justice meted-out at Nuremburg, so long ago.

Hub Galliker, having honorably-served.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello;</p>
<p>I read your article on Afghanistan the other day, and was struck that you seem to be distancing yourself for your part in the incredible damage the Bush Admin. has created in out world. In-League with, in my opinion, American Traitors such as Norquist and Podhoretz, you should not be allowed to vanish into the academic background for your crimes against our country.</p>
<p>I was advised of the fierce patriotism engendered in Americans of Japanese descent by the ghastly imprisonment program in WW2.  It may seem to the otherwise-advised mind that you have attempted, in your abbettance to WAR-Crimes by the U.S. Government, that you have &#8220;counted-coup&#8221; for that outrage.  But vengeance is the Lord&#8217;s, not yours or mine. I know of Daniel Inouye, and I know of Wesley Narita, for my hometown here.</p>
<p>They are different than you, sir.  The are Americans I can understand and respect.</p>
<p>The bastards that have subverted MY government under cover the Cheney/Bish Admin. are indeed the enemy within, and you carry that title forever for me, unless they start a new tribunal, similar to the justice meted-out at Nuremburg, so long ago.</p>
<p>Hub Galliker, having honorably-served.</p>
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		<title>By: Mohammad Tajbakhsh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mohammad Tajbakhsh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 15 Jun 2008 05:44:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.
I&#039;m livin in IRAN and actually i just want you to know that i like your sentences and i follow your points. but....
There is one way for Iranian salvation and its America&#039;s help.
I say this because i live here and you live in US. I even don&#039;t dare to write my opinion here.
you know the differents.
Regards.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
I&#8217;m livin in IRAN and actually i just want you to know that i like your sentences and i follow your points. but&#8230;.<br />
There is one way for Iranian salvation and its America&#8217;s help.<br />
I say this because i live here and you live in US. I even don&#8217;t dare to write my opinion here.<br />
you know the differents.<br />
Regards.</p>
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		<title>By: denis fodor</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-226</link>
		<dc:creator>denis fodor</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:14:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Francis Fukuyama wrote:
&gt;...American liberty is the product of &gt;decentralized government balanced by a &gt;strong central state, one that is capable, &gt;when necessary, of sending the National &gt;Guard to Little Rock to protect the right &gt;of black children to attend school....

With due respect to Mr. Fukuyama I&#039;m of the feeling that American liberty&#039;s been slipping because of a growing imbalance between &quot;the strong central state&quot;, which has arrogated to itself the right to wage undeclared wars, and &quot;the decentralized state&quot; whose role is more or less limited to distributing to those with connections the contents of the pork barrel. As a result &quot;guided democracy&quot; a la mode chinoise, or russe, is gaining currency and popularity globally.Its solidity is undewritten by the Chinese version of the Nationa Guard, which displayed the central government&#039;s resolve to remain the ultima ratio in Korea against us and on Tianmen against our system.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Francis Fukuyama wrote:<br />
&gt;&#8230;American liberty is the product of &gt;decentralized government balanced by a &gt;strong central state, one that is capable, &gt;when necessary, of sending the National &gt;Guard to Little Rock to protect the right &gt;of black children to attend school&#8230;.</p>
<p>With due respect to Mr. Fukuyama I&#8217;m of the feeling that American liberty&#8217;s been slipping because of a growing imbalance between &#8220;the strong central state&#8221;, which has arrogated to itself the right to wage undeclared wars, and &#8220;the decentralized state&#8221; whose role is more or less limited to distributing to those with connections the contents of the pork barrel. As a result &#8220;guided democracy&#8221; a la mode chinoise, or russe, is gaining currency and popularity globally.Its solidity is undewritten by the Chinese version of the Nationa Guard, which displayed the central government&#8217;s resolve to remain the ultima ratio in Korea against us and on Tianmen against our system.</p>
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		<title>By: Ben Sutherland</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-232</link>
		<dc:creator>Ben Sutherland</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2008 21:55:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The Chinese government sure has a friend in Francis Fukuyama don&#039;t they?

Those pussy little protesters at Tiananmen Square just didn&#039;t understand power like you do, did they, Frank?

What a sorry excuse for a liberal democrat you&#039;ve become.

Thanks, anyway, Frank. But I think I&#039;ll throw in with the &#039;89 protesters than buddy up with that totalitarian regime.

But have fun rationalizing totalitarian rule, Frank. Looks like it suits you.

I don&#039;t know if I&#039;ll ever read anything you read ever again after what you just wrote today.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Chinese government sure has a friend in Francis Fukuyama don&#8217;t they?</p>
<p>Those pussy little protesters at Tiananmen Square just didn&#8217;t understand power like you do, did they, Frank?</p>
<p>What a sorry excuse for a liberal democrat you&#8217;ve become.</p>
<p>Thanks, anyway, Frank. But I think I&#8217;ll throw in with the &#8217;89 protesters than buddy up with that totalitarian regime.</p>
<p>But have fun rationalizing totalitarian rule, Frank. Looks like it suits you.</p>
<p>I don&#8217;t know if I&#8217;ll ever read anything you read ever again after what you just wrote today.</p>
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		<title>By: viewer</title>
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		<dc:creator>viewer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 May 2008 04:30:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Democratization in China,

Well, cultural differences maybe
improbable to use the American or Anglo democratic develop as the guiding process of Democratization in China.

The rule of develop a middle class , the middle class will ask for right and civil -Anglo western democracy will follow

lamentably has not been the Historical rule

In matter of fact , Middle class did not turn
Southern European Countries in

Anglo Western Democracies
Middle Class economic power did not turn
pre WWII Japan in stable Anglo democracy

Middle Class power, did not turn Argentina into a long stable Democratic Power like the Anglo , American model did

Culture affects the politics and while constitutions, laws can be copied,

Cultural traditions is a different ball game

The Anglo tradition of common law.  More individualist  and less centralized authority , more egalitarian  culture , a tradition of thousands of years

It as powerful as the Cultural tradition in China, Japan and worldwide  are.
And they affect the political attempt to recreate Anglo Western traditions

In his book Trust , Mr Fukuyama
offer a great dissection of how the internalization of trust in different societies affect economical, political and public sphere

According to his study,  trust in Asian and African culture tradition is center more in family and less in society that results in
cultures with strong family ties but corrupt government , families ties trumping other larger spheres of trust so crucial ingredient in Anglo democratic societies .

And Asian societies have a millenarian tradition of free enterprise , private business acumen and capitalism but it did not
brought like in the Anglo cultural world
a Democratic Political Culture

So History proof that Economic reforms per se
are not enough,

Just large middle class and private entrepreneur spirit which in the case of the  Chinese culture , it is an undeniable Chinese cultural achievement ,
Neither education per se
Which always have been prized in Asian cultures


does not bring Democracy other ingredients are necessary

Dissent, Individualism, Trust beyond the family sphere, tradition of Common Law, limited government are the root behind the
Anglo Democratic achievement.
Anyone who read the list of Human Right Groups notices that

Human Rights embody in the original 1948 Chart reflect Anglo Western Concepts
that for other cultures Human Rights lack the same meaning

Order, stability and lack of introspective self reflection of flaws in cultural modes

are the order of the day among the hearts and
minds of Non Western Cultures be Asians or not
Maybe for that reason, Overwhelming Chinese support the occupation, annexation of Tibet and racial discrimination and racial sense of superiority among Han Chinese

While in the Anglo American model the occupation of the Philippines, the racist laws caused pain , moral dissent and disturbance among Americans

Many felt that if the Filipinos wanted Independence America should give it to them

In China, due to cultural factors
Even that Taiwanese and ethnic Tibetans want such independence

Chinese lack such emphaty toward or desire to
respect their will

No Amount of Economic Development or Education can affect a Culture Elements


Anglo American Western Culture is an unique model as Unique as the Chinese or the Kenya Culture is


The only way for a worldwide embrace of Anglo American cultural values such as jury independence. empathy toward others , individual freedoms , dissent , check and balance Trust beyond family sphere
it if such values could be internalized and taught from home to school to culture and the
only way to do so
in a absolute fashion is if
the British Empire have not being dissolved and if Britain or an similar American empire ruled the planet otherwise

we have the Rainbow and the United Nation mosaic of cultures and as Mr Fukuyama knows
culture is stronger than any economical force</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Democratization in China,</p>
<p>Well, cultural differences maybe<br />
improbable to use the American or Anglo democratic develop as the guiding process of Democratization in China.</p>
<p>The rule of develop a middle class , the middle class will ask for right and civil -Anglo western democracy will follow</p>
<p>lamentably has not been the Historical rule</p>
<p>In matter of fact , Middle class did not turn<br />
Southern European Countries in</p>
<p>Anglo Western Democracies<br />
Middle Class economic power did not turn<br />
pre WWII Japan in stable Anglo democracy</p>
<p>Middle Class power, did not turn Argentina into a long stable Democratic Power like the Anglo , American model did</p>
<p>Culture affects the politics and while constitutions, laws can be copied,</p>
<p>Cultural traditions is a different ball game</p>
<p>The Anglo tradition of common law.  More individualist  and less centralized authority , more egalitarian  culture , a tradition of thousands of years</p>
<p>It as powerful as the Cultural tradition in China, Japan and worldwide  are.<br />
And they affect the political attempt to recreate Anglo Western traditions</p>
<p>In his book Trust , Mr Fukuyama<br />
offer a great dissection of how the internalization of trust in different societies affect economical, political and public sphere</p>
<p>According to his study,  trust in Asian and African culture tradition is center more in family and less in society that results in<br />
cultures with strong family ties but corrupt government , families ties trumping other larger spheres of trust so crucial ingredient in Anglo democratic societies .</p>
<p>And Asian societies have a millenarian tradition of free enterprise , private business acumen and capitalism but it did not<br />
brought like in the Anglo cultural world<br />
a Democratic Political Culture</p>
<p>So History proof that Economic reforms per se<br />
are not enough,</p>
<p>Just large middle class and private entrepreneur spirit which in the case of the  Chinese culture , it is an undeniable Chinese cultural achievement ,<br />
Neither education per se<br />
Which always have been prized in Asian cultures</p>
<p>does not bring Democracy other ingredients are necessary</p>
<p>Dissent, Individualism, Trust beyond the family sphere, tradition of Common Law, limited government are the root behind the<br />
Anglo Democratic achievement.<br />
Anyone who read the list of Human Right Groups notices that</p>
<p>Human Rights embody in the original 1948 Chart reflect Anglo Western Concepts<br />
that for other cultures Human Rights lack the same meaning</p>
<p>Order, stability and lack of introspective self reflection of flaws in cultural modes</p>
<p>are the order of the day among the hearts and<br />
minds of Non Western Cultures be Asians or not<br />
Maybe for that reason, Overwhelming Chinese support the occupation, annexation of Tibet and racial discrimination and racial sense of superiority among Han Chinese</p>
<p>While in the Anglo American model the occupation of the Philippines, the racist laws caused pain , moral dissent and disturbance among Americans</p>
<p>Many felt that if the Filipinos wanted Independence America should give it to them</p>
<p>In China, due to cultural factors<br />
Even that Taiwanese and ethnic Tibetans want such independence</p>
<p>Chinese lack such emphaty toward or desire to<br />
respect their will</p>
<p>No Amount of Economic Development or Education can affect a Culture Elements</p>
<p>Anglo American Western Culture is an unique model as Unique as the Chinese or the Kenya Culture is</p>
<p>The only way for a worldwide embrace of Anglo American cultural values such as jury independence. empathy toward others , individual freedoms , dissent , check and balance Trust beyond family sphere<br />
it if such values could be internalized and taught from home to school to culture and the<br />
only way to do so<br />
in a absolute fashion is if<br />
the British Empire have not being dissolved and if Britain or an similar American empire ruled the planet otherwise</p>
<p>we have the Rainbow and the United Nation mosaic of cultures and as Mr Fukuyama knows<br />
culture is stronger than any economical force</p>
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		<title>By: Arnold Eyre</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-229</link>
		<dc:creator>Arnold Eyre</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 May 2008 12:34:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>With the &quot;knowledge revolution&quot; in full swing, the world is moving feebly toward a system of noocracies, led by the western democracies, followed by (the few) &quot;benevolent&quot; dictatorships, communist dictatorships and theocracies.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>With the &#8220;knowledge revolution&#8221; in full swing, the world is moving feebly toward a system of noocracies, led by the western democracies, followed by (the few) &#8220;benevolent&#8221; dictatorships, communist dictatorships and theocracies.</p>
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		<title>By: George Wang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-228</link>
		<dc:creator>George Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 22:18:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dear Mr. Francis Fukuyama

After reading your article_Strong States and
Liberty, I agree with you and I decided to say my
comment although I am only an electronics engineer in
Canada. I just hope that this idea can make the world
better. What I said here can be checked in chinese
history and democracy history into detail. I put
comment in your
blog, but I think that I make many spelling errors
there.
I know how to balance out the central government
power and the local government power in a new way. The
next step for democracy is to split the election to be
2 steps for up and down. Joining the existing 3
rights, it will become the 5 rights constitution. The
first 5 rights constitution was invented by the first
Chinese President Mr.Sun one hundred year ago in
overthrowing Qing Dynasty, but he failed the democracy
in that first Chinese republic because he did not
realized that these 2 extra rights should be used to
split election to be election up and down. If these 2
rights are not used in what I said here, it is just
some neglect able compensation to the existing 3
rights. Mr. Sun got a very a weak central government
with chaos of war and murder, then in the end he
generated the mode of Chinese communism party and KMD
party to increase the power of central government by
studying Soviet Union. In the end CCP won to be the
present Chinese government.
China has over 1500 years of politician qualification
exam history with the content of ancient Chinese
philosophy and literature, which can be evolved to be
modern style by adding modern content. Also Chinese
ancient government had officials that were responsible
for criticizing every politician including emperor.
This is why President Sun thought out 2 extra rights
for democracy.
Now, one right should controlled by public citizens,
which is used to elect down every level of major
official such ad mayor, governor and president in
every 4 years. The election up power should be
controlled by central government politician
qualification exam and the poll of very level of
Parliament or board. Candidates passed the central
government exam first, and then they will be allocated
to
the place other than his home town for a practicing
position. Whenever there is a major official position
becomes empty, candidates in that area will be
selected by election from the city hall board,
province board or parliament. The central government
will be the same style. For local government, local
citizen will have the chance to join the effort of
central
government to control the local government. Local
government official will not be so easily join any
group to intensify their own interest also because
they come from other area by the order of the central
government. And they can be elected down by public. On
the other side, they can not be promoted to higher
level if they do not care the policy of central
government. For the same reason, the central
government is also formed in this way, which is
democracy. Public can elect down the president
although they can not elect up a president. Election
up is controlled by parliament members. If a president
is not elect down by public, he can continue another
term or appoints his successor. Otherwise, the person
supported by the majority of parliament will take the
position. So it is a kind of mixing of USA and British
democracy style. In addition, every citizen will have
the chance to pass the qualification exam ready for
a high rank official position above county level in
theory by less cost than the present election campaign
system.
It should the way of Chinese Democracy, which is a mix
of western democracy and the Chinese ancient and
present government style. I guess that it will also be
the future of democracy of the whole world. Then we
can get rid of the chaos when applying democracy in
developing country. We were fed up by those chaos
stories.
I am a Chinese that salute to Mr. Francis Fukuyama by
what you said in this article. I agree with you and I
would like to put my cents here for a better world.

Best Regards
George Wang
-Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dear Mr. Francis Fukuyama</p>
<p>After reading your article_Strong States and<br />
Liberty, I agree with you and I decided to say my<br />
comment although I am only an electronics engineer in<br />
Canada. I just hope that this idea can make the world<br />
better. What I said here can be checked in chinese<br />
history and democracy history into detail. I put<br />
comment in your<br />
blog, but I think that I make many spelling errors<br />
there.<br />
I know how to balance out the central government<br />
power and the local government power in a new way. The<br />
next step for democracy is to split the election to be<br />
2 steps for up and down. Joining the existing 3<br />
rights, it will become the 5 rights constitution. The<br />
first 5 rights constitution was invented by the first<br />
Chinese President Mr.Sun one hundred year ago in<br />
overthrowing Qing Dynasty, but he failed the democracy<br />
in that first Chinese republic because he did not<br />
realized that these 2 extra rights should be used to<br />
split election to be election up and down. If these 2<br />
rights are not used in what I said here, it is just<br />
some neglect able compensation to the existing 3<br />
rights. Mr. Sun got a very a weak central government<br />
with chaos of war and murder, then in the end he<br />
generated the mode of Chinese communism party and KMD<br />
party to increase the power of central government by<br />
studying Soviet Union. In the end CCP won to be the<br />
present Chinese government.<br />
China has over 1500 years of politician qualification<br />
exam history with the content of ancient Chinese<br />
philosophy and literature, which can be evolved to be<br />
modern style by adding modern content. Also Chinese<br />
ancient government had officials that were responsible<br />
for criticizing every politician including emperor.<br />
This is why President Sun thought out 2 extra rights<br />
for democracy.<br />
Now, one right should controlled by public citizens,<br />
which is used to elect down every level of major<br />
official such ad mayor, governor and president in<br />
every 4 years. The election up power should be<br />
controlled by central government politician<br />
qualification exam and the poll of very level of<br />
Parliament or board. Candidates passed the central<br />
government exam first, and then they will be allocated<br />
to<br />
the place other than his home town for a practicing<br />
position. Whenever there is a major official position<br />
becomes empty, candidates in that area will be<br />
selected by election from the city hall board,<br />
province board or parliament. The central government<br />
will be the same style. For local government, local<br />
citizen will have the chance to join the effort of<br />
central<br />
government to control the local government. Local<br />
government official will not be so easily join any<br />
group to intensify their own interest also because<br />
they come from other area by the order of the central<br />
government. And they can be elected down by public. On<br />
the other side, they can not be promoted to higher<br />
level if they do not care the policy of central<br />
government. For the same reason, the central<br />
government is also formed in this way, which is<br />
democracy. Public can elect down the president<br />
although they can not elect up a president. Election<br />
up is controlled by parliament members. If a president<br />
is not elect down by public, he can continue another<br />
term or appoints his successor. Otherwise, the person<br />
supported by the majority of parliament will take the<br />
position. So it is a kind of mixing of USA and British<br />
democracy style. In addition, every citizen will have<br />
the chance to pass the qualification exam ready for<br />
a high rank official position above county level in<br />
theory by less cost than the present election campaign<br />
system.<br />
It should the way of Chinese Democracy, which is a mix<br />
of western democracy and the Chinese ancient and<br />
present government style. I guess that it will also be<br />
the future of democracy of the whole world. Then we<br />
can get rid of the chaos when applying democracy in<br />
developing country. We were fed up by those chaos<br />
stories.<br />
I am a Chinese that salute to Mr. Francis Fukuyama by<br />
what you said in this article. I agree with you and I<br />
would like to put my cents here for a better world.</p>
<p>Best Regards<br />
George Wang<br />
-Canada</p>
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		<title>By: George Wang</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-227</link>
		<dc:creator>George Wang</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Apr 2008 20:39:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I know how to balance out the central goverment power and the local government power in a a new way. The next step for democracy is to split the election to be 2 steps for up and down. Joining the existing 3 rights, it will become the 5 rights constitution. The first 5 rights constitution was invented by the first Chinese President Mr.Sun one handred year ago in overthrowing Qing Dynasty, but he failed the democracy in that first chinese republic because he did not realized that these 2 extra rights should be used to split election to be  election up and down. If these 2 rights are not used in what I said here, it is just some neglectable compensation to the existing 3 rights. Mr. Sun got a very a weak central government with chaos of war and muder, then in the end he generated the mode of chinese communisim party and KMD party to increase the power of central goverment by studying Soviet Union. In the end CCP won to be the present Chinese government.
 China has over 1500 years of politician qulification exam history with the content of ancient chinese philosophy and literature, which can be evolved to be mordern style by adding modern content. Also chinese ancient government had officials that were responsible for criticizing every politician inluding emporer.  This is why President Sun thought out 2 extra rights for democracy.
  Now,one right should controled by public citizens, which is used to elect down every level of major official such ad mayor, govenor and president by every 4 years.  the election up power should be controled by central government politician qulication exam and the poll of very level of Parliament or board. Cadidates passed the central government exam first, then they were allocated to the place other than his home town for a practicing position. Whenever there is a major official position becomes empty, candidates in that area will be slected by election from the the city hall board, province board or parliament. The central government will the same style. For local government, local citizen will have chance to join the effort of central government to control the local government. Local government official will not be so easily join any group to intensify their own interest also because they come from other area by the order of the central government. And they can be elected down by public. On the other side, they can not be promoted to higher level if they do not care the policy of central government. For the same reason, The central goverment is also formed in this way, it is democracy. Public can elect down the president although they can not elect up a president. Election up is controled by parliament members. If a president is not elect down by public, he can continue another term or appoints his successor. Otherwise, the person supported by the majority of parliament will take the position. so it is a kind of mixing of USA and British democracy style. In addition, every citizen will have the chance to pass the qulification examle ready for a high rank official postiion above county level in theory by less cost than the present election compaign system.

It should the way of chinese Democracy, which is a mix of western democracy and the chinese ancient and present government style. I guess that it will also be the the future of democracy fo the whole world. Then we can get rid of the chaos when applying democracy in developing country. We were fed up by those chaos stories.

I am a chinese that salute to Mr.Francis Fukuyama by what you said in this article. I agree with you and I would like to put my cents here for a better world.

Best Regards

George Wang
-Canada</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I know how to balance out the central goverment power and the local government power in a a new way. The next step for democracy is to split the election to be 2 steps for up and down. Joining the existing 3 rights, it will become the 5 rights constitution. The first 5 rights constitution was invented by the first Chinese President Mr.Sun one handred year ago in overthrowing Qing Dynasty, but he failed the democracy in that first chinese republic because he did not realized that these 2 extra rights should be used to split election to be  election up and down. If these 2 rights are not used in what I said here, it is just some neglectable compensation to the existing 3 rights. Mr. Sun got a very a weak central government with chaos of war and muder, then in the end he generated the mode of chinese communisim party and KMD party to increase the power of central goverment by studying Soviet Union. In the end CCP won to be the present Chinese government.<br />
 China has over 1500 years of politician qulification exam history with the content of ancient chinese philosophy and literature, which can be evolved to be mordern style by adding modern content. Also chinese ancient government had officials that were responsible for criticizing every politician inluding emporer.  This is why President Sun thought out 2 extra rights for democracy.<br />
  Now,one right should controled by public citizens, which is used to elect down every level of major official such ad mayor, govenor and president by every 4 years.  the election up power should be controled by central government politician qulication exam and the poll of very level of Parliament or board. Cadidates passed the central government exam first, then they were allocated to the place other than his home town for a practicing position. Whenever there is a major official position becomes empty, candidates in that area will be slected by election from the the city hall board, province board or parliament. The central government will the same style. For local government, local citizen will have chance to join the effort of central government to control the local government. Local government official will not be so easily join any group to intensify their own interest also because they come from other area by the order of the central government. And they can be elected down by public. On the other side, they can not be promoted to higher level if they do not care the policy of central government. For the same reason, The central goverment is also formed in this way, it is democracy. Public can elect down the president although they can not elect up a president. Election up is controled by parliament members. If a president is not elect down by public, he can continue another term or appoints his successor. Otherwise, the person supported by the majority of parliament will take the position. so it is a kind of mixing of USA and British democracy style. In addition, every citizen will have the chance to pass the qulification examle ready for a high rank official postiion above county level in theory by less cost than the present election compaign system.</p>
<p>It should the way of chinese Democracy, which is a mix of western democracy and the chinese ancient and present government style. I guess that it will also be the the future of democracy fo the whole world. Then we can get rid of the chaos when applying democracy in developing country. We were fed up by those chaos stories.</p>
<p>I am a chinese that salute to Mr.Francis Fukuyama by what you said in this article. I agree with you and I would like to put my cents here for a better world.</p>
<p>Best Regards</p>
<p>George Wang<br />
-Canada</p>
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		<title>By: marina</title>
		<link>http://blogs.the-american-interest.com/contd/2008/04/25/strong-states-and-liberty/comment-page-1/#comment-230</link>
		<dc:creator>marina</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 27 Apr 2008 05:20:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is strong central state with decentralized government can truly guaranty liberty? Wasn&#039;t strong state are also could be dictator too like communism in China?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is strong central state with decentralized government can truly guaranty liberty? Wasn&#8217;t strong state are also could be dictator too like communism in China?</p>
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